I appreciate what you are saying, but what do you say to the person, man or woman, who feels no sexual attraction to the opposite sex? Do they settle for a life of no intimacy? Or do they settle for a life of pretending, having to fantasize in order to have a meaningful sex life and satisfy their partner while all the time feeling they are living a lie?

I can't ignore the comment of a friend (who is gay) who loves God who said to me recently, "Why would God make me this way and then have people, particularly church goers, punish me and discriminate against me for this?"

I don't think your comparison is appropriate. It's like comparing same sex marriage with paedophilia, it's just not appropriate. Paedophilia is wrong on so many levels, as is marrying multiple wives or husbands. And to suggest that it will result in moral chaos is simply alarmist and untrue.

I don't know if I even support same sex marriage, but I have a problem with really simplistic views and inappropriate comparisons like this that, instead of leaving people feeling loved and understood, leave them feeling judged and written off.

Thanks,

Geoff

I have no Attraction for the Opposite Sex...Heck, in my Two Failed marriages?

The first Ex used the Church and her Lawyers just to try to Bamboozle me into giving her more Money.

The Second? Well she just wanted to be Single again in her own home and in her own words: "Thought and Prayed about this for several years..."

Bryant is kind of Hollering after the Horse is out of the Barn and it is on Fire.

These things are obvious to even the Greatest Sinners like Me.

Loved and Understood? You must be dreaming...
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Like my Attorney told me Twice...He said: "When the rungs on the Ladder or the Money runs out? Love runs right out with us.

Human love is Couched in Sinful Selfishness--God's love is Exemplified on the Cross of Christ.

Again…not sure why this is such a hot button topic, but this particular post seems to leave me with even more questions. Why do you think that same sex marriage “logically” leads to these other issues? I can “logically” see that same sex marriage may lead to men marrying men and women marrying women, to more business for the wedding industry, to the government having more people getting marriage related tax breaks, to there being more potential homes for children in the adoption and foster care system, and maybe even more divorces every year. Some of these are bad and some of these are good, but none of these led me down the road that this post does.

Besides if same sex marriage were legal, it doesn’t mean that the church would have to say that it’s not a sin, would it? There are plenty of things that are legal that the church does not have to say is morally acceptable. Consenting adults having sex is not illegal, yet the church doesn’t have to accept it. Drinking excessively once over the legal drinking age is not illegal, yet the church doesn’t have to accept it. There have also been plenty of things that were accepted as legal and moral for many years then it was decided that the rule should be changed, slavery being a great example.

So I can’t see how same sex marriage is “logically” going to lead to the issues that are mentioned above.

P.S. Geoff that was a well written post, but what were you doing at 2:02am? I was sleeping.

"Sodomy is not a civil liberty!" In many legal jurisdictions it is against the law and could result in arrest! One of the main purposes of government is to protect the public. Goverment authorities (Health Departments) are mandated to reduce the risk of infectious diseases. There is an epedemic of HIV/AIDS in this country, and worldwide, for that matter! If you are seriously hurt in a car wreck or accident, it is no fun to watch in agony, as the police, firemen, EMTs suit up with protective face shieds, gloves, etc to guard them from possible contaminated blood and bodily fluids! Same for doctors and nurses at the hospital! The "Golden Hour" flies by fast... I hope you make it! Innocence may, and does sometimes... pay a terrible price for the risky and immoral behavior of others! THINK before you support questionable acts, acts that can make you a victim! Believe me... IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU!

The Bottom line to me is this: Lots of Guys and Gals sleep in the Same Room. In Dorms and Apartments and Military Barracks and Homes and all the rest.

So they are not Lonely--they have People there with to keep them from being Alone. My son lived with me for Years--So did my Daughter. We were not Lonely.

Same sex marriage is just a Financial Ploy to gain Financial Gain.

Now loneliness is a Bad Thing--But some kind of Sex Act between same sex does not cure Loneliness...In fact it makes those Individuals more vulnerable to Spiritual and Emotional Loneliness.

I've seen plenty of Gay Guys and Gals walk away and Build Straight Families.

It is not something Jesus will not forgive...Paul said: "And such were some of you..."

In a way, Geoff, you've made Bryant's point. You said "what do you say to the person, man or woman, who feels no sexual attraction to the opposite sex? Do they settle for a life of no intimacy?". Here's the point: If that is your reason for saying same-sex marriage is okay, then you can't make an argument that pedophiles cannot marry young children. What if that's the only way they can have a fulfilled sex life? What about men who are not sexually satisfied with only one woman? The justification you've given for same-sex marriage could be used later by any other person or group to claim that they also should be able to marry. What then would be your argument that they cannot marry, other than your moral determination that their relationship is "wrong on so many levels"?

So you make the Committment to stay Married to your Husband or Wife--enjoy those Advantages and if things fall apart under the Divorce Regulations because one of both of you Fail?

We must live with these Issues.

Same-Sex Marriage is a Political Ploy with no Legitimate Seed. God made Men and Women to live together in Marriage. That is why men and Women Compliment each other.

All I know is this Guys...If you are Contemplating leaving your Straight Marriage of a Gay Lifestyle?

Think again...My Daughter's First Boyfriend Dad left his Mom for Another Man.

Didn't Work...

Ricky, where are all these pedophiles wanting to change the marriage law in their favor? What are they waiting for? If this is so certain to happen , why aren't they already on the bandwagon? They are just waiting for gay marriage to become legal and then they are going to come out of the woodwork??

Parents for the most part love their Kids...Even when they (screw up)Sin one way or the Other.

I am so Thankful I had my Kids by myself for Many Seasons--Heck I did not Date the Gals in the Neighborhoods because I did not want to Cast any Doubt on their Dad's Sexual Intregity.

(Oh Gunk that was just being self-righteous)

No it wasn't and let me Tell you Something Mom and Dad. I don't care if you go to JFBC or the Great Methodist Church around the Corner of the Synagogue down the Street.

You had better keep your Pants on because there is one thing they will not ever Forget.

Sexual Stupidity...

Praise the Lord! For many years I have been in the same-sex marriage with myself. I committed only to my wants and desires and the results was almost fatal when my self-corrupted mind turned against me. I decided to change my mind for the mind of Christ. I repented and ask Jesus into my heart and He came in. My savior saved me and I trust Him with my whole heart.

Christina, no one was talking about same-sex marriage years ago. Think of the changes that have taken place in the last forty years. No one was pushing the same-sex marriage agenda then, and very few would have predicted where we are today. In short, you don't know what will happen in the next forty years with pedophilia or anything else, especially in a culture that embraces moral relativism.

If same-sex marriage becomes the norm, then there is no logical reason why someone could not claim that the term marriage should apply to their relationship-whatever that is. And, it won't take a huge number of people, because the precedent would have been set. If the definition of marriage can change at society's whim, then there's not a good argument to restrict it in the future.

I am obviously pro same-sex marriage, as I am anti-discrimination. Gay people have been discriminated against long enough.

Kelsey Rae and Geoff, good posts. Thanks.

And a Lifetime Committment between a Man a Woman is the Best Way to go...

But the Divorce Rate in this Country continues to Skyrocket and the Statistics prove the same for Evangelicals and Non-Evangelicals.

Christians or not? Statistics are Statistics and there is not one Whit of Difference between Believers and Non-Believers.

And the Fallout skins us all but the Crux of the Buscuit is Failure.

I've had Two "Wives" on paper...I have a Divorce Document which says I am free to Remarry Again.

Horse is Out Guys and the Barn Burns/G

Well JCO?

Why didn't you just come out and tell us that?

That explains it all...So that is the Deal. I always thought some of your Arguments were Fundamentally Weak. Now I know why.

You are attempting to use the very Scriptures which Condemn in order to Defend.

Find some other Scriptures/G

Gunk, how much Cymbalta/day are you on now?

What is Cymbalta...My Daughter's Hi-Hats are in the Basement and they are 14" Z-Custom Mastersounds Cymbals.

That is the only thing around here like that...I don't use anything like that but maybe I should.

What is it good for?

Guys. Really? You've moved into the personal zone once again. This is a very hot topic. We realize that. But enough for today. Please keep your comments brief and on point. God Bless.

"for all have sinned, and.....". Really, guys..... 'all you need is love, love is all you need.....'. Let it go. Jesus died for us all. Quit judging and pretending to run other's lives. Let it go.